In a very special episode of Listen Carefully, Sam and Lindsey welcome their first guest, Jill McReynolds, daughter of suspect Bill McReynolds. Kolar scoured through lab and police reports, witness statements and other information when he took over the case. The Best Valentines Day TV Episodes For Kids, Chrissy Teigen & John Legend Have Welcomed Their New Baby, Prince Harry Says Hes Worried One Of Prince Williams Kids Will End Up As The Spare, By subscribing to this BDG newsletter, you agree to our. Janet McReynolds said in the same interview that her 1970s play sounded "quaint" in light of the Ramsey murder and only made her family more empathetic to the Ramseys' loss. NASCAR and its marks are trademarks of the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing, LLC. That night Thomas met with Bill and Janet and she conirmed Bill's statement that he was at home at the time of the murder. Any additional thoughts or insight would be appreciated. Trip DeMuth stood at the gas station with his arms crossed, watching them drive away. (Thomas). For further details of our complaints policy and to make a complaint please click this link: thesun.co.uk/editorial-complaints/, JonBent Ramsey was strangled to death twenty-five years ago and her killer has never been brought to justice, John and Patsy Ramsey were prime suspects for years but were later exonerated when DNA testing had cleared them of any involvement, Investigators could not prove whether or not Patsy wrote the ransom note but she was later cleared by a federal court, Gary Oliva, a sex offender, was found with magazine photos of JonBent in his backpack when police arrested him on drug charges, John Mark Karr falsely confessed to killing JonBent in a 'love game' gone wrong but DNA had cleared him, Many people believe that an intruder killed JonBent but it has never been proven by police, Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). The real Killer doesn't know the Ramsey's personally so he is never questioned or identified. Some strange things about Bill that may suggest his involvement include his own daughter getting kidnapped 22 years before JonBenetss murder. The case All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. She had dressed up as Mrs. Claus at the Christmas party and way back in 1976, Janet McReynolds wrote a play about a young girl who was abducted, molested, and found dead in a basement. She made a profound change in me. "I didn't make the connection as much as I felt that this area should be investigated by the authorities because of the similarities between what I'd seen online [of child pornography] and the child's murder," he explained in .css-tjvzc4{-webkit-text-decoration:none;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-thickness:0.0625rem;text-decoration-color:inherit;text-underline-offset:0.25rem;color:inherit;-webkit-transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;border-bottom:thin solid #6F6F6F;}.css-tjvzc4:hover{color:#595959;text-decoration-color:border-link-body-hover;}an interview with the Computer Crime Research Center. Karr eventually came out as a transgender woman in 2010. Barry Williams/Getty Images News/Getty Images, Janet McReynolds wrote a play about a young girl, sexual assault was a factor in the murder. And apparently it starts out nice and then it gets up into this you left Santa Claus and, you know, went to all those fancy things and you came back to Santa Claus. Yet, when the case was reopened in 2009, the intruder theory was brought once again as a possible option. I could see them talking her into helping them fake a kidnapping and promising that they wouldn't actually hurt Jonbenet, maybe getting their key, borrowing the pen and paper. So how could there be dna from this accomplice? However, the connections turned out to be purely coincidental, as both Bill and Janet submitted hair, handwriting, and blood samples and were cleared of any involvement in the crime. A book by Kate Millett, The Basement, details the murder. JonBent's mother, Patsy, called police initially believing that her daughter was missing after a ransom note was found on the staircase. But they also know that he couldn't have written the note and they know that neither one of them wrote it or did anything wrong because they were together the entire time. Santa Claus, A.K.A Bill McReynolds recruited a younger male to kill JonBenet and film it or take pictures for him. The Ramseys finally went on CNN or some news show with a small poster offering a $100,000 Reward if JonBenet's killer was caught. Nonetheless, BillMcReynolds was still one of the favored suspects for the Ramsey family, and they even specifically called him out in their book, Death of Innocence: The Untold Story of JonBent's Murder and How its Exploitation Compromised the Pursuit of Truth. There have been over 140 suspects since the police began their investigation. According to a CNN report in 2006, Trip DeMuth, an original prosecutor on the case, said that McReynolds' alleged Christmas card to JonBent was particularly concerning: The McReynolds were reportedly cleared of charges after submitting DNA samples, CNN reported. McReynolds and her husband, a journalism professor at the University of Colorado at the time of JonBent's murder, were at the Ramsey home on December 23, 1996, playing Mr. and Mrs. Claus for the kids. JonBenet is alone when the killer emerges from his hiding place and strikes her with a heavy object (likely the flashlight) He takes her down to the basement where he ducktapes her mouth, sexually assaults her and strangles her with the garrote, snuff movie style. The Boulder Police Department was hit with a lot of criticism due to their handling of the investigation. Heres How to Shop for Them, an interview with the Computer Crime Research Center, Gary Howard Oliva, was arrested last June, he was allegedly carrying a photograph of the child beauty queen. He played Santa at the Ramseys in 94, 95 and 96. Marionumber1 Since it was Christmas, the department was short-staffed and was not prepared for the scene they were faced with at the Ramsey House. They didn't follow procedure with the nail clippers. However, Olivas DNA was cleared for the murder but was later arrested for possessing child pornography. Charles Kuralt's program or segment that Bill promised would be filming his Santa romps was with CBS TV. Since they didn't, any DNA was mixed and contaminated. Ramsey Home Walkthrough - 3D Computer Model. A. James Kolar, who led the case investigation for the Boulder DAs office for nine months, believes its unlikely the girl was killed by an intruder. An ex-con knows whats going on in an interrogation room with two detectives, and Jesse McReynolds knew he looked good to Gosage and me as a suspect in the Ramsey case. Santa was apparently coming to visit JB. He grew his long natural white beard when cast as a tavern owner in the play, "Les Miserables" for Unity of Boulder Church. She discusses her father's An Associated Press report from March 1997 stated that McReynolds and his wife, Janet, were initially questioned less than six weeks after the murder. Need Bday Wish Inspo for Your Brother? Thus the kidnapping charge. I wish we would have done a better job of securing and controlling the crime scene on day one, said Beckner. One of the major twists in the investigation of the murder of JonBent Ramsey is that detectives interviewed Bill McReynolds, a friend of the family, because he had played Santa Claus at a Ramsey Christmas celebration two days before the 6-year-old's body was found. No Following the Ramseys exoneration thanks to new DNA technology, many hoped the killer would eventually be found. https://t.co/mbz7yh9Ug3, Larry McReynolds (@LarryMac28) January 18, 2021. He's quoted as saying: It seems likely that McReynolds was questioned because, like many others, he had been in the Ramsey home and interacted with JonBent in the days leading up to her death. The only play the public has been made aware of was Hey Rube which was based on the true story of Sylvia Likens, a young girl who was held captive in an Indiana basement in 1965. Wait, I meant, this is complete bullshit. (BPD Reports #1-1874, #26-144, #1-41, #1-162, #1-204, #1-304, #1-2622, #5-297, #5-371, #5-2202) Could that Secret Santa have been the killer and someone JonBent knew? | Courtesy of Previously.TV Bill McReynolds was one of the prime suspects due to the connection he had with the Ramsey family. "This was her speculation based on what she claimed she went through as a child. While there, CNN reports that he allegedly gave JonBent a card that read, "You will receive a special gift after Christmas.". Why murder her? Apparently they're supposed to use separate clippers for each nail. Many sleuths believe that Helgoth had heard he was a suspect in the case, with a popular theory believing that it was his footprint at the crime scene. Was Jesse ever looked at as a serious suspect? The victim in the story later dies in a hospital. Because for years that's been what most people have heard. Olivas high school friend, Michael Vail claimed that Oliva had call him on the phone to confess that he had hurt a little girl. Do you know, u/samarkandy? Because of their proximity to the family, the couple was questioned in February of 1997 after returning from a vacation in Spain. Your theory is a very specific and detailed scenario - most of it isn't supported by evidence. The day after Christmas in 1996, the body of 6-year-old beauty pageant queen JonBent Ramsey was found in the basement of her parents Boulder, Colorado home. A federal court ruled that it was unlikely that Patsy wrote the note and cited six certified handwriting experts. It was nearly 20 years ago when the mysterious JonBent Ramsey murder case shocked, and mortified people around the world. Why would the killer care if Patsy found the note before the body. OK. Whatever we wanted, he gave, and Jesses handwriting eliminated him as the author of the ransom note. Their desperation to protect Burke leads them to lie about certain little things which only makes them look guiltier. But then when you get to handwriting on the note, both parents' fibers on the body, the evidence of previous abuse, the families behavior, the random fact of the late night pineapple, the way she was redressed, the Barbie nightgown, all the weird little details, it all falls apart. sometime this fall. His best chance was to work with us, so he became a picture of cooperation. John and other family members were cleared of suspicion through a handwriting test, but police couldnt conclusively determine if Patsy wrote the letter. Where is this info coming from? When did that happen? ), Janets daughter and a friend were taken to an unknown location, where Janets daughter was forced to watch her friend being sexually molested. (Thomas), When I die, I'm going to be cremated. For years, JonBent's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey were blamed for possibly having some involvement in their daughters murder. Part of Karrs twisted confession involved diary entries written about crime in which Karr describes strangling JonBent as a love game gone wrong. They made no attempt to use their multi-million dollar fortune to "catch the real killer." I don't recall even seeing a photo of one that was actually put up in public in Colorado. A. James Kolar, who led the case investigation for the Boulder DAs office for nine months, believes its unlikely the girl was killed by an intruder. I can make some of the smaller type out but it would be nice to read it all properly. This would explain why a neighbor thought they saw John Andrew approach the house the evening of the murder. Larry McReynolds, who is a NASCAR on FOX analyst and a two-time Daytona 500 winning- crew chief, congratulated his daughter and to-be son-in-law on this occasion. Linda Mac and I are so proud of the man that our @mkmcreynolds1 will be spending the rest of her life with! According to CNN, an original prosecutor on the Ramsey case claimed that Bill had given JonBent a card with the message: "You will receive a special gift after Christmas." What parents would engage in this sick game out of irrational desire to protect their innocent child? No one was ever arrested for the crime. The woman said that on Christmas Eve day in 1996, JonBent said Santa had told her he was going to make a secret visit to her after Christmas. He had been living in the area on and off and when police allegedly found a magazine with pictures of the girl in his backpack. McReynolds planned the murder in advance and he told JonBenet that Santa would visit her after Christmas to get her to go downstairs that night and wait for him. Again, he is an individual who was involved with her, had an interest in her, was seen with her, shortly before the murder," original prosecutor Trip DeMuth told CNN. Unless Burke had a behavior disorder, why would they even think that anyone would consider him a suspect? This was in Kolar's book. The Craziest Theories in the JonBent Ramsey Case, Know a Pisces? We're going to go up behind the cabin here and have it blow away in the wind." Former Kidnapping charge was a botched $113 gas station robbery in Arizona, where he forced clerk to move from Point A to Point B, thus the kidnapping charge (ST Pg 114, DOI pg167), He had come home from the Christmas party at his parents home, had a drink of scotch, swallowed some powerful prescription drugs he took for depression, and gone to bed alone, not awakening until late the next morning. Thanks for putting that link up. McReynolds also stated that JonBent had given him a vial of gold glitter at both the 1995 and 1996 Christmas parties. In a June 1997 Denver Post article, a number of people who knew JonBent spoke to the outlet about what she was like as a person because the 6-year-old murder victim was far more than the pageant star whose glamour shots had been splashed across nearly every print and media outlet in the country. Hey u/Comicalacimoc, I just posted a podcast interview with Jill McReynolds, but I thought I should put it here too, https://rss.com/podcasts/listencarefully/142330/. According to The Daily Camera, the McReynolds' middle daughter, 9-years-old at the time, was abducted on December 26, 1974, and witnessed the sexual molestation of her friend. Michael Helgoth was an early suspect who lived nearby the Ramsey house. Thats who interests me a little more than his father. The Ramsey family has also been cleared of all suspicion on multiple occasions due to DNA evidence. John Mark Karr confessed to murdering JonBent in 2006. (Thomas), DeMuth was on the trail of Bill McReynolds, even using undercover cops to tail him. The case has fascinated the nation for the past 20 years, but it remains unsolved. JBR doesn't know the guy so it's not like there is some risk. But it wasn't just Santa that investigators were interested in. Why wouldnt he hand it over at the storage unit versus going back to the house? Part of Karrs twisted confession involved diary entries written about crime in which Karr describes strangling JonBent as a love game gone wrong. JonBent Ramsey was 6 years old when she was murdered in her Boulder, CO home on Christmas night 1996. Why not? "And because I'd been told by cyber-crime specialists that JonBent was precisely the kind of child, because of her beauty pageant experience, who could be sucked into the world of child porn. Particularly older people who were around in the mid nineties. .. John reveals stranger stayed in daughters room Do you think JonBenet was in the wine cellar when Fleet JDI folks - where do we land on the ransom note? They went to a war: they kept lying, twisting facts, throwing friends into the fire, and obstructing justice for decades now. Santa Claus, A.K.A Bill McReynolds recruited a younger male to kill JonBenet and film it or take pictures for him. (BPD Report # 1-645. He wrote me a letter saying that he carved JonBenet's name in a harp, it had the name of three other little girls that died early. Someone is out there!". According to The Daily Camera, the McReynolds' middle daughter, 9-years-old at the time, was abducted on December 26, 1974, and witnessed the sexual molestation of her friend. One of the most heated debates surrounding the case is the theory that JonBent might have been murdered by an intruder. And another creepy coincidence that Thankful that God blessed me with such an amazing woman in my life that not only loves the Lord, but challenges me to be a better man. Helgothand his accomplices committed the crime. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. (BPD Report # 1-645. Letting them go was a big mistake, as they soon layered up and did not get to formally interview them again until May of 1997, five months after their daughter was murdered., The case was then passed to the DAs office in 2002 after the Ramseys said they had no confidence in the police.. Almost 20 years after the 6-year-old child beauty queen was found brutally murdered in the basement of her family's home, it seems like almost everyone has a theory as to who did it or what happened. )(Woodward), When his own daughter was ten years old, she and another girl were kidnapped, and the friend was molested before both girls were released. Another was Michael Helgoth, an electrician who worked at a nearby auto salvage yard. I believe the killer was someone McReynolds knew and was possibly a When the Ramseys went on TV and held up the small poster it was a bizarre performance. . very weird. Tracey reported Karr to the police who arrested him in Bangkok. Many sleuths believe that Helgoth had heard he was a suspect in the case, with a popular theory believing that it was his footprint at the crime scene. No suspects were ever found in the case, but both children were found. Jon Benet had bits of the Ramsey's own sparkly stairway Christmas garland in her hair. McReynolds won a Western States Art Foundation regional prize and a $7,500 grant from the National Endowment for the Arts, but it was never published and no copy has been released to the media since. Lacy was very suspicious of him and as far as I know he was eliminated to her satisfaction by DNA testing. The correspondence took a disturbing turn, with Karr talking about his sexual fascination with JonBent. Lengthy interview? on the Internet. According to The Guardian, Bill McReynolds had written a note to JonBent, as Santa, days before her body was discovered. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. In his book Presumed Guilty: An Investigation Into the JonBent Ramsey Case, the Media, and the Culture of Pornography, journalist Stephen Singular argues that the police were so focused on pinning the murder to the Ramseysthat they neglected to consider the possibility that JonBent was abducted for child pornography. How do they know that wasnt the same cord he was using? Family and friends were of the Ramseys were also allowed in and out of the house before the initial investigation was completed. There's no doubt about it. I lived through the he saga as an adult and I know several people that believe the Intruder theory. 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