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I read it otherwise. It had to be her DL and it was rejected due to being expired it.This supports the copy cat motive. Not only that, she said she had to go get it from Squeaky and Charlie, if it were not true, would he have remained quiet about it ? The Last of the Manson Girls, Sharon Tate-The Biography Sharon Tate Book 2011, The Manson File- Myth and Reality of an Outlaw Shaman, Vanity Fair April 2011 interview w/Charlie in Spanish. Early Life He wants Rudy Weber and the hose at 1:00 but most of all he wants Tim Ireland's description of the scream before 1:00. I care what holes there are in her testimony and where those holes actually leadI can dig that. I should have found a way and not gone over the fence and run down the hill. Obama just pardoned a woman who was serving "life" in Federal prison for helping a friend to launder some "drug" money.So what can possess an otherwise normal human being to gamble with THEIR entire life on this earth, which is likely to be the REAL heaven. Memory is sometimes very specific and other times more general and at other times, not at all. I am and was a good friend of Linda's. In Robert's book, there is some discussion on this that is quite interesting.But either way, it's a red herring. If that had been the motive, there wouldn't have been any need to stab Voytek Frykowski fifty-one times, to hit him thirteen times over the head and shoot him twice. Dreath saidAt what price, my friend? With the events leading up to the TLB murders, one is very naive to think the trip to Venice was just for no real reason. Do you hate everyone who was of draft age during the Vietnam era. And so on. They have all said that. Yes. Her new family, though, was already falling apart. He also went on to say that he preferred Linda as she hadn't killed anyone but because of the grand jury deal, was stuck with Susan.Interestingly, even with Susan, he simply had no case against Linda. As opposite the teachings of Christ as one can get.Is Linda a good person? St Circumstance saidIf you read this post and think Linda is someone to pity and use positive phrases for, or defend- that is coolIt's more a case of trying to examine all the angles and conclude based on the myriad differences one finds therein. I give Linda credit for one thing. She chose to be the way she wasAround the age of 14, I chose to be the way I am and have been doing so ever since. You are correct, alone it is meaningless. I thought Lake Victoria was the source of denial, but it appears to be somewhere in New Hampshire.Mother Kasabian is one of those people who live in a vacuum, in some freaky parallel universe.Linda didn't make a binary change to 16 year old, dropout, and rogue's bride as characterized. And I find it hard to believe that Bugliosi was so stupid as to not check either, knowing that his case would be seriously compromised if it came out that LK had no valid licence.Incidentally, it was Bugliosi and Bugliosi alone that speculated that the the only reason Linda was along both those nights was because she was the only one left with a valid driving licence, being that Mary was in the clink. Did Bugliosi actually use any scenario that did not come from someone else ? When her second marriage, to Armenian American Robert Kasabian, began to sour, Kasabian and her baby daughter, Tanya, returned to New Hampshire to live with Linda's mother. She was the chief witness at the prosecution of Manson and his followers for the Tate LaBianca murders. Better yet how about asking Dr. Galloway? document.write(part3 + ''); It's kind of passed into folklore that that is the reason but no reason has ever been actually given. But I'd force myself to read them just in case I missed something.And I still did ! ?I do not get it at all.. there is a human side to this and there are a couple of people to pity who got involved with Charlie. Because certainly the message couldn't be, "sorry you're in jail bud, but we kicked started a global race war last night". When Larry King asked her if at any point she asked Manson why are we doing this and why are these people being killed, she was at a total loss for words until Bugliosi spoke up and answered for her. ' kill the white man'. Ask yourself: if her story is not accurate why didn't she just tell the truth? They were to be the vanguard the race war. But NOW, "drunkenness" is considered to be the by-product of a DISEASE. She told the jury her perception of what time they arrived at Cielo Drive given they had no clocks. Susan Denise Atkins aka Sadie Mae Glutz is a former member of the Charles Manson "Family". Believe it or not the closest I think I could get would be Atkins because IF you believe Kasabian she didn't kill anyone. Dreath saidI agree with your comment about multiple angles. Everything he did was part of a plan to wage a horrible war (murder). Pat, in Guinn's book, presents herself as not wanting the murders to happen, going so far as to say that the following night at Waverley, before anthing happened with Rosemary, she prayed to God, asking him to make the murders stop and since she went ahead and exercised her own free will in participating in carnage and mutilation and God didn't strike her down and stop her, Leslie or Tex, she's not believed in God since that night.And she has a problem with Linda presenting herself as not being a willing participant.As a side issue, if Linda hadn't been at the car when they arrived at it after Cielo's action, would they have just driven off and left her ? At the front door, she ran into a stabbed and beaten Wojciech Frykowski. But my days of name calling with strangers are over, and I don't want to take any focus off this amazing first time effort from Dreath.:). That's the point lol. Linda explained what had happened, and said that she couldn't have brought Tanya because it would've looked too suspicious. Sympathy is something that just doesn't make sense to me. The three were instructed to kill an actor that once picked Kasabian up hitchhiking. document.write(''); I don't know anyone who defends the victims who thinks she is any kind of a heroBut again. On August 8, 1969, Kasabian and. You are trained, instead, to focus on "indicia of credibility and reliability". It was through Melton that Linda first met Manson family member Catherine Share (Gypsy). What if she wouldn't have testified? No dont stop Dreathwhat happens next ? No other reason.". I'll stop now. St Circumstance saidand then left her child with the people who she knew committed themWhile this is generally taken as evidence of her total unfitness as a parent, for me it's more significant that she left her kid with a group whose child rearing methods she did not like than the fact that they had murdered. Now is the time + (2.) The reporters ? Can't we all just get along? Now DailyMail.com can exclusively disclose that Linda Kasabian, 68, is living in a modest apartment complex in Tacoma, Washington, not far from the home of her daughter Quanu, 45. After talking to a social worker, Linda returned to Los Angeles and eventually got her daughter back. It certainly is not a euphemism for "cute innocent girl that never gets into trouble. You know, had she said those things during her first trial and got death, then the death penalty was overturned as it was, she'd possibly be out now. Until you examine it. Grim, I love you to death and read everything you post but you have a tendency to 'move the goal posts' which makes responding to you rather difficult. Linda Kasabian Who Is She: Kasabian was the Family member who eventually turned on the Family. There is an interesting quote from Fleischmann in an issue of the Free Press prior to Kasabian becoming the star witness. Did she play well with others?That job as an aide at a nursing home sounds so kind and sweet. No screaming for it to stop, etc. A Conversation with Johnny Ussery- The Then 7 year old son of Clyda Dulaney! Who amongst us can judge? Many thanks to you, Dreath. This comment has been removed by the author. Even with all the people that eventually formed part of the huge patchwork needed to make Manson's role make sense, without an Atkins, a Van Houten, a Krenwinkel, a Watson or a Kasabian, the case was so limp and that's why people would say to the prosecution things like "shame you had to be landed with such a bummer !". But wait a minute Grim, Atkins never mentions this event to the Grand Jury, not a word. Bugliosi said that was the ONLY reason she was "picked". They were both into really wild shit long before meeting Charlie. When things didn't work out with Bob, Linda decided to go with Gypsy back to Spahn's Ranch. The penalty phase is, according to Charlie {in his "arresting Bobby wrongly" statement at trial}, Steve Grogan {his testimony} and Susan Atkins {"The myth of HS"} what the defence would have been.Overlooking the fact that Atkins sold him out pretty fastShe initially told her cell mates of her involvement in TLB and Charlie's leadership never envisioning they'd tell the authorities. She has been portrayed a number of times in films. When he then asks "do you mean 3 a.m. or midnight" he's leading the witness. But now and again one does sort of let something out that is interesting. She has always maintained at hearing she knew nothing about that being a motive and says she thought it was a robbery.Nice jab at Trump supporters too. The trial ? What does that refer to ? And wherever she tripped up, she corrected herself somewhere later. Great job. Linda Darlene Kasabian was born on June 21, 1949. At the time they went over and killed those people because they believed it was for H/S. Testifying before the jury that it was all them and Charlie had nothing to do with it isn't exactly the best way to demonstrate the prosecutor was wrong. Its been awhile but I think I recall she said she took his wallet. After the bulk of her testifying, the judge was petitioned and he signed the papers.How does Linda represent the "Human" side of the Manson story?? Back in the day drunkenness and mentally altering ones mind with drugs was considered BAD, because only losers did that. I'm affected by tragedies of all kinds, even some of the self inflicted ones.Sympathy is something that just doesn't make sense to me.I can see that !But I feel it for a variety of the players in this saga. Oh and I don't think the events are clear long before Jay Sebring is shot. People who developed life long drinking and smoking weeds habbits as 15 and 16 year old's with no steady parental influence. "Also as stated somewhere earlier, it didn't need some bogus story about a Lebanese actor to cover any Linda murder mania, not when 2 of the murderers had previously told police and other witnesses that she hadn't killed anyone.Given that no one was charged with even the attempted murder of or conspiracy to murder Saladin Nader, one might have to conclude you're chucking exhibits from that box of red herrings again Vincent Bugliosi said the only reason Linda went along on those two nights, is because she was the only one out of the group with a valid driver's license. One either believes it or one doesn't. After that it is Bugliosi, not Kasabian who is testifying. If, however, Atkins testifies he is in the same position he was with Kasabian testifying and, yes, he still needs corroboration but I wasn't going to try to 'try' that case here. That's about all I have to say. Sanctimonious, elitist narcissist is more like it. And refused. She was the key witness in District Attorney Vincent Bugliosi's prosecution of Manson and his followers for the Tate-LaBianca murders. But what happened before and after that. The Manson family threatened to kill her if she testified. He said something to the effect that Charlie had a very strong case and that there was pretty much no evidence against him. Her most interesting revelation on it came actually during the Watson trial, when HS is not emphasized the way it was in the TLB trial. More languages Both began their move away from straight society as young teens. Anniversary thoughts- Leary7 said it best. With Mackenzie Mauzy, Eden Brolin, Grace Victoria Cox, Greer Grammer. We do not know why any of them were picked. The question: what if she was ASKED? Over time, she has been depicted by numerous actresses in different movies. When I put this thing together while the high school stuff was fun, for me the heart of the matter was the 'Odyssey' article. Like how about BILL Clinton. That the motive for these seven horrendous murders was not money, it was not burglary or robbery. More weight does not necessarily make it right or definitive.That said, quoting various bods is more for the interest of seeing exactly what they did say about certain of the incidents/matters we're all discussing and sometimes providing illumination.If Watson is attacking Voytek..And Krenwinkel is chasing AbigailAnd then Sadie came running out of the house, Who was watching Sharon Tate?No one. Dreath, I seem to agree with most things you have said.Does it carry any weight with you that The Actual Killers say they want there to ignite H/S?? I think if you agree with me that her story is not accurate your answer to this question will reveal the real Kasabian. It should also lead us directly to Charles Manson (a loving father to HIS Family and a Natural Born KILLER to many others.Like no other time in History, WE are discovering new facts concerning just what makes the Human Brain tick and hopefully it won't be much longer until WE finally understand exactly why human beings do the "terrible" things THEY do.AND of course, that understanding will eventually lead to a sense of awareness in humans paralleled in all of history.